Comments on: Is Zelaya’s new army really “pacific”? http://wagingnonviolence.org/2009/08/is-zelayas-new-army-really-pacific/ People-Powered News and Analysis Wed, 23 May 2012 00:45:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: AdR http://wagingnonviolence.org/2009/08/is-zelayas-new-army-really-pacific/comment-page-1/#comment-300 AdR Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:17:05 +0000 http://wagingnonviolence.org/?p=1401#comment-300 Who is <a href="http://narconews.com/Issue59/article3783.html" rel="nofollow">La Gringa</a>? Who is La Gringa?

]]> By: AdR http://wagingnonviolence.org/2009/08/is-zelayas-new-army-really-pacific/comment-page-1/#comment-291 AdR Tue, 01 Sep 2009 09:53:50 +0000 http://wagingnonviolence.org/?p=1401#comment-291 If you think the opinions of a supporter of the coup and a supporter of the resistance can be equated I wonder what your position in general might be. If you really swallow the story of the peaceful army of the Honduras junta being attacked by simpletons agitated by Cuban, Nicaraguan and Venezuelan agents I think you may be considered to be disqualified in general. Racism is one word that comes to mind. If you think the opinions of a supporter of the coup and a supporter of the resistance can be equated I wonder what your position in general might be.
If you really swallow the story of the peaceful army of the Honduras junta being attacked by simpletons agitated by Cuban, Nicaraguan and Venezuelan agents I think you may be considered to be disqualified in general. Racism is one word that comes to mind.

]]> By: Nathan Schneider http://wagingnonviolence.org/2009/08/is-zelayas-new-army-really-pacific/comment-page-1/#comment-189 Nathan Schneider Sun, 09 Aug 2009 00:49:17 +0000 http://wagingnonviolence.org/?p=1401#comment-189 Fascinating... Thank you both. Great links, especially The Field (and especially <a href="http://narcosphere.narconews.com/thefield/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">this piece</a>), which I hadn't known about. Lots of useful information there. Though neither conclusively settles the question for me. There may be violent mobs, but that doesn't mean Zelaya isn't trying to organize peacefully. And the AFP's story on the "popular army" may not be reliable, but it doesn't mean there isn't some truth to it. Still, the two of you are yet another reminder of how diametrically opposite the interpretations of the present situation there continue to be. Evidently there is more than one thing going on at once—some violent, some not. Perhaps this tree can only be known by its eventual fruits. Fascinating… Thank you both. Great links, especially The Field (and especially this piece), which I hadn’t known about. Lots of useful information there. Though neither conclusively settles the question for me. There may be violent mobs, but that doesn’t mean Zelaya isn’t trying to organize peacefully. And the AFP’s story on the “popular army” may not be reliable, but it doesn’t mean there isn’t some truth to it.

Still, the two of you are yet another reminder of how diametrically opposite the interpretations of the present situation there continue to be. Evidently there is more than one thing going on at once—some violent, some not. Perhaps this tree can only be known by its eventual fruits.

]]> By: Justin Parker http://wagingnonviolence.org/2009/08/is-zelayas-new-army-really-pacific/comment-page-1/#comment-188 Justin Parker Sat, 08 Aug 2009 19:32:34 +0000 http://wagingnonviolence.org/?p=1401#comment-188 Hello, I have no proof of anything, but I'm fairly well convinced by what I've been reading on Al Giordano's website, 'The Field' (http://narcosphere.narconews.com/thefield/). Go see for yourself. I recommend reading everything he's posted since the coup (he has entered Honduras and has been reporting from there since July 29) but especially the post of August 3, which specifically answers your question, and those of August 7 & 8 (today), which discuss the means of ongoing nonviolent resistance being employed. I fear to jump to conclusions but I am excited by what's happening, and think the Hondurans may be providing us the best example of resistance in the world today, one that those in Muslim countries and elsewhere would do well to study. Reading the posts also reminds me forcefully that we have absolutely no journalism left in the U.S., only spin. If you want to be a journalist you have to cover your own expenses. Giordano has several posts on the lies and distortions of truth being presented as news. Hello,

I have no proof of anything, but I’m fairly well convinced by what I’ve been reading on Al Giordano’s website, ‘The Field’ (http://narcosphere.narconews.com/thefield/). Go see for yourself. I recommend reading everything he’s posted since the coup (he has entered Honduras and has been reporting from there since July 29) but especially the post of August 3, which specifically answers your question, and those of August 7 & 8 (today), which discuss the means of ongoing nonviolent resistance being employed. I fear to jump to conclusions but I am excited by what’s happening, and think the Hondurans may be providing us the best example of resistance in the world today, one that those in Muslim countries and elsewhere would do well to study. Reading the posts also reminds me forcefully that we have absolutely no journalism left in the U.S., only spin. If you want to be a journalist you have to cover your own expenses. Giordano has several posts on the lies and distortions of truth being presented as news.

]]> By: La Gringa http://wagingnonviolence.org/2009/08/is-zelayas-new-army-really-pacific/comment-page-1/#comment-185 La Gringa Sat, 08 Aug 2009 06:49:53 +0000 http://wagingnonviolence.org/?p=1401#comment-185 Zelaya's protesters are anything but pacific. They have been violent from the beginning being trained and encouraged by professional agitators from Nicaragua, Venezuela, and Cuba. Zelaya protesters attack the military and it gets reported as military brutality. Zelaya protesters attack pro-government journalists and it gets reported as media suppression in Honduras. These articles tell and show a little more about what is really happening: <a href="http://lagringasblogicito.blogspot.com/2009/08/what-is-really-happening-in-honduras.html" rel="nofollow">What is really happening in Honduras</a> <a href="http://lagringasblogicito.blogspot.com/2009/07/zelaya-respect-will-of-people.html" rel="nofollow">Zelaya: Respect the will of the people</a> Zelaya’s protesters are anything but pacific. They have been violent from the beginning being trained and encouraged by professional agitators from Nicaragua, Venezuela, and Cuba.

Zelaya protesters attack the military and it gets reported as military brutality.

Zelaya protesters attack pro-government journalists and it gets reported as media suppression in Honduras.

These articles tell and show a little more about what is really happening:

What is really happening in Honduras

Zelaya: Respect the will of the people

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