Comments on: Really losing a video game http://wagingnonviolence.org/2009/09/really-losing-a-video-game/ People-Powered News and Analysis Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:33:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Venezuela’s video game ban / Waging Nonviolence http://wagingnonviolence.org/2009/09/really-losing-a-video-game/comment-page-1/#comment-530 Venezuela’s video game ban / Waging Nonviolence Mon, 05 Oct 2009 14:59:55 +0000 http://wagingnonviolence.org/?p=2121#comment-530 [...] had a lively discussion last week about violence in video games. A new story from the AP promises for more: Venezuela is going to ban violent video games and toys. [...] [...] had a lively discussion last week about violence in video games. A new story from the AP promises for more: Venezuela is going to ban violent video games and toys. [...]

]]> By: Nathan Schneider http://wagingnonviolence.org/2009/09/really-losing-a-video-game/comment-page-1/#comment-493 Nathan Schneider Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:07:05 +0000 http://wagingnonviolence.org/?p=2121#comment-493 That graph, despite the pretty video game covers, doesn't really capture a causal link between the games and the levels of violence, for which there are a great many other factors. The APA article is much more to the point. That graph, despite the pretty video game covers, doesn’t really capture a causal link between the games and the levels of violence, for which there are a great many other factors. The APA article is much more to the point.

]]> By: AuhsojSivart http://wagingnonviolence.org/2009/09/really-losing-a-video-game/comment-page-1/#comment-491 AuhsojSivart Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:58:45 +0000 http://wagingnonviolence.org/?p=2121#comment-491 How about this: http://www.hardcoreware.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/video-game-violence.png How about this:

http://www.hardcoreware.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/video-game-violence.png

]]> By: Nathan Schneider http://wagingnonviolence.org/2009/09/really-losing-a-video-game/comment-page-1/#comment-490 Nathan Schneider Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:14:09 +0000 http://wagingnonviolence.org/?p=2121#comment-490 Oh, goodness! I'm wearing a v-necked t-shirt today. Watch out for me. But seriously. You're right that much of the research cited in that article is by the author. And one is a "meta-analysis." But these are articles that appeared in peer-reviewed scientific journals, including <em>Science</em>, the <em>Annual Review of Psychology</em>, <em>Review of General Psychology</em>, and more. You can't publish in journals like those by making stuff up. In an interview format like this, it makes sense that he should be citing his own research—that's the work he knows best. Your countering his claims (based on professional research) with the evidence of your personal experience and that of "A LOT" of people you know, actually, is far less reliable than anything he's saying. Oh, goodness! I’m wearing a v-necked t-shirt today. Watch out for me.

But seriously. You’re right that much of the research cited in that article is by the author. And one is a “meta-analysis.” But these are articles that appeared in peer-reviewed scientific journals, including Science, the Annual Review of Psychology, Review of General Psychology, and more. You can’t publish in journals like those by making stuff up. In an interview format like this, it makes sense that he should be citing his own research—that’s the work he knows best.

Your countering his claims (based on professional research) with the evidence of your personal experience and that of “A LOT” of people you know, actually, is far less reliable than anything he’s saying.

]]> By: Cooch http://wagingnonviolence.org/2009/09/really-losing-a-video-game/comment-page-1/#comment-489 Cooch Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:04:12 +0000 http://wagingnonviolence.org/?p=2121#comment-489 I've been playing violent video games for decades and never had any violent tendencies. I know A LOT of people who play the same games, and not one of them has flipped out or even used harsh language because they play these games. With the number of people I know, according to the nonviolent game crowd it should be a statistical certainty that at least one of them would have gone postal. None have. The article you cited is chock-full of weasel words and phrases (have been linked to, data suggests, "some" studies) that it's really hard to take it seriously. What's even more silly is that 8 out of the 10 references were produced by the author. You can prove anything if you're self-referential, just look at the Bible. You also gotta question anyone who draws "factual" conclusions from meta-analyses. What the problem is that there are crazy people out there. Crazy people do crazy things. Crazy people play video games too. I'm sure that at some point practically everyone who has committed a murder played a video game at some time. You might as well blame v-necked t-shirts for violent crime while you're at it. I’ve been playing violent video games for decades and never had any violent tendencies. I know A LOT of people who play the same games, and not one of them has flipped out or even used harsh language because they play these games. With the number of people I know, according to the nonviolent game crowd it should be a statistical certainty that at least one of them would have gone postal. None have.

The article you cited is chock-full of weasel words and phrases (have been linked to, data suggests, “some” studies) that it’s really hard to take it seriously. What’s even more silly is that 8 out of the 10 references were produced by the author. You can prove anything if you’re self-referential, just look at the Bible. You also gotta question anyone who draws “factual” conclusions from meta-analyses.

What the problem is that there are crazy people out there. Crazy people do crazy things. Crazy people play video games too. I’m sure that at some point practically everyone who has committed a murder played a video game at some time. You might as well blame v-necked t-shirts for violent crime while you’re at it.

]]> By: Jasmine http://wagingnonviolence.org/2009/09/really-losing-a-video-game/comment-page-1/#comment-488 Jasmine Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:52:38 +0000 http://wagingnonviolence.org/?p=2121#comment-488 Eric is now the proud owner of this video game as I've given up all hope on my Commodore 64 Eric is now the proud owner of this video game as I’ve given up all hope on my Commodore 64

]]> By: Nathan Schneider http://wagingnonviolence.org/2009/09/really-losing-a-video-game/comment-page-1/#comment-487 Nathan Schneider Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:37:05 +0000 http://wagingnonviolence.org/?p=2121#comment-487 I'd suggest looking at <a href="http://www.apa.org/science/psa/sb-anderson.html" rel="nofollow">this article</a> from the APA, cited above. It may not be magic, but there is a major correlation. I’d suggest looking at this article from the APA, cited above. It may not be magic, but there is a major correlation.

]]> By: anon http://wagingnonviolence.org/2009/09/really-losing-a-video-game/comment-page-1/#comment-486 anon Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:31:47 +0000 http://wagingnonviolence.org/?p=2121#comment-486 seriously? get over yourself. violent video games dont magically make people violent. seriously? get over yourself. violent video games dont magically make people violent.

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