I only was pinning those accusations on the video — and only in a limited way, since the video isn’t so forthright about how rebels supposedly should just get on with blowing up the ‘bad’ people (who, actually couldn’t be clearly differentiated from the rebels, and from everyone else — to touch on another problem with that message).

Beyond that criticism toward the people behind the video, I had just suggested that murder strategies are compatible with some (and only some) approaches to the basic idea that “civilization” is bad. I didn’t specify whose particular anti-”civilization” approaches are the ones that could include or do include forms of murder though. So I certainly wasn’t saying that all people with a connection to “Endciv” would tolerate or promote murder. For all I know, those people may promote shared morality or shared laws that could preclude murder — in which case, they would would be promoting a form of civilization, even as they present an anti-”civilization” message. I had only mentioned compatibilities between murder in relation to views about how any and all civilization should end (as opposed to other views that reject a form of “civilization” without actually rejecting all possible types of civilization). But, in mentioning compatibilities, I only am saying that those people leave open murder as a possibility (since moral codes that could be at odds with violence are gone in their vision, for instance); yet, those people don’t necessarily call for murder.

All of this is made more confusing because some of these people approach the word “civilization” in unusual ways. Some of those people don’t actually reject any and all writing, for instance (and this a relevant point on this site, since writing is one form of civilization that allows us to outline visions of nonviolence).

Is Mr. Jensen advocating murder?
Should environmental rebels blow people up — like in the actual Star Wars movie?
The video at least implies that, yes, we should get out and kill people like that.

Such a message certainly fits with the connotations of an “Endciv” label. After all, without a form of civilization or civility, what’s to stop us from killing people?
Although some “Endciv” people actually only object to certain forms of civilization — even as they use that label — other “Endciv” approaches that consist of outright rejection of any and all civilization fit with the implied messages in this video which suggest that we should be out bombing people (as if that murder actually would be enough to bring about radical change, even if we were willing to do it).

The video promotes civil disobedience.

Here’s the blurb that was posted with it -
“One of the lamest criticisms of actvists in the Climate Change Movement is that they’re making The Wrong Effort. But that’s Armchair Warriorism for you- it’s always looking for a new ways to not get amongst it.”